[BCNnet] RE: IBET Re: Toxic Dumping into Lake Michigan-request for help

Wed Jul 18 09:27:50 CDT 2007

As many of you know, I am an environmentalist and bird conservationist
living at the state line in Whiting, Indiana where the BP refinery is
polluting Lake Michigan. This is in response to the IBET and BCN postings.
Also, two people posted on IN-BIRD, the birding list serve in Indiana, about
BP adding more pollution to Lake Michigan. Since I am banned from posting
directly to IN-BIRD by Dr. Susan Hengeveld, this message will never get on
IN-BIRD and most likely Illinois list serve owner, Sue will immediately buzz
my post on IBET as well.  Hengeveld censors all of my posts, has been for
years, and determines what will and will not appear on IN-BIRD. (IN-BIRD is
funded by the University of Indiana in Bloomington.) Just to make sure that
I am not slandering Dr. Hengeveld, I have included her warnings to me below.

I would like to say to BCN (Bird Conservation Network), in the hopes of
reaching birders in Illinois and Indiana,  that I was appointed by BP to be
a member of the BP Citizen's Advisory Committee last year. However, I was
never briefed by BP or any of the organizations quoted in the press about
the increased pollution or the difficult process to protest the increased
pollution. There is also a BP air permit that will add more pollution to the
air that is now before the Indiana Department of Environmental Management. 

 I want to convey to birders that I am doing everything humanly possible to
protect our environment in spite of all the obstacles.  

Carolyn Marsh, Whiting, IN

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From: Susan Hengeveld [mailto:shengeve at indiana.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:51 AM
To: Carolyn A. Marsh
Subject: Re: Message ("Your message dated Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:42:51...")

Carolyn - 

It has a political agenda and not appropriate for the list. Post it to a
list that is political or conservation oriented in its focus. That is NOT
the focus of this list period. 

The same rules apply to everyone - your posts will be blocked when they are
deemed inappropriate just like everyone else. There is no room for
discussion and I will not reply again. 

.....susan 

On Jun 28, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Carolyn A. Marsh wrote:

It is about Indiana because the US Supreme Court will affect birds in
Indiana as well. And others post about birds in other states. When will you
stop censoring me?

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From: Susan Hengeveld [mailto:shengeve at indiana.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:36 PM
To: Carolyn A. Marsh
Subject: Re: Message ("Your message dated Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:42:51...")

No. Off topic - not strictly about IN-birds.

On Jun 27, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Carolyn A. Marsh wrote:

Susan,

Are you going to allow this to go on INBIRD?

Carolyn

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From: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU [ <mailto:LISTSERV at LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
mailto:LISTSERV at LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU]

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:43 PM

To: Carolyn A. Marsh

Subject: Message ("Your message dated Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:42:51...")

Your message dated Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:42:51 -0500 with subject "Supreme

Court and the Endangered Species Act case - No sightings" has been submitted

to the moderators of the IN-BIRD-L list.

____________________________________

Dr. Susan Hengeveld

1001 E. 3rd Street

Department of Biology

Indiana University

Bloomington, IN 47405

 <mailto:shengeve at indiana.edu> shengeve at indiana.edu

office -- Morrison Hall 203

office phone -- 812-855-5239

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From: ILbirds at yahoogroups.com [mailto:ILbirds at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:56 PM
To: ilbirds at yahoogroups.com
Subject: IBET Re: Toxic Dumping into Lake Michigan-request for help

Thank you, Randi for all you have done on behalf of
the Chicago Department of the Environment.

Calling a Press Conference about the BP announcement
is good strategy in getting the message out that the
City of Chicago cares deeply about "Saving our Lake".

Perhaps, along the same lines the Chicago Depart of
the Environment might persuade the City of Chicago
Department of Sewers to show good faith on this issue
by announcing tomorrow a moratorium on its own
periodic dumping of untreated raw sewage into Lake
Michigan.

Every little bit helps.

Michael Miller
Chicago, Illinois
Not far from the Indiana Dunes,
(one of my favorite places)

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